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Roman Vojtech

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Just ordinary thermalling. You are falling down after launch and after 3 minutes there is hot air allotment for you. When I was in point A, I guessed height about 600-700m, NewSting was really small. No, it was mistake! Only cca 220m! Thanks to a bit stronger wind I was circling down the wind and I was more far from me than higher. Interesting! Using protractor we could calculate (some trigonometry) distance on the ground and in the air.

Just circling is tedious therefore there is point B, switching to Speed Phase and a little bit whistling :))

Just ordinary thermalling

This was tought day. My intention was to be on the airfiled before sunrise. It 's getting up around 4:00 8-) But it was again quite interesting experience with my F3B/F3F ship and altimeter. Using more trailing edge down increased time in the air significantly but up to certain point-sure expected. But where is this point? Altimeter helped me to find it exactly.

Just gliding

Dynamic Soaring, perhaps the youngest discipline of F3X guys. Yeahh, I also tryied this heartbreaking temptation. Sure I don't fly without LoLo even on slope side and therefore you can see altitude log from my first DS attempt. In first half of log you can see my trials when zooming behind the slope but after fourth air raid I was starting to DS!!! Wouuuu!!

DS

Let's look to this picture a little bit in details. I made zoom in using Excel and a bit of math should help me to ROUGHLY guess the speed of DS.

  1. From graph we can guess average diameter of DS circle. I guessed 35m.
  2. Let's say average duration of one circle is 5s.

DS, Zoom In

  1. I guessed the angle alpha was 60 degress. See picture
  2. Resulting speed was guessed about 170km/h (105mph) See picture

It's clear that these method is very(?) innacurate, but gives me rough idea what's going on in the air. Needles to point out for instance that I was DS more or less under me (negative altitude), but from altitude log you see only positive values. High G are perhaps resulting mentioned offset of altitude. Hopefully absolute value of height is similar to real altitude but only shifted up. Would be very interesting to compare this calculation with "real life" radar gun measurements...

DS and math...

Bellow are some additional pictures which will help you to get feeling about LoLo.

What and where?

I use recorder with microphone to comment time dependent actions and situations in the air for later analysis

PC interface is connected. Now you press macro button in Excel and data transfer starts (if it's connected to DC source :))

You can use standalone DC source

Above I presented you some possible Lolo applications. Very strong area is in Excel spredsheet using all available tools like approximation, smoothing or even derivation (first derivation of distance by time is speed, hmmm). You don't have to load altimeter only in to your favorite airplain but using small accupack you can use it on bike trip, trekking or even climbing. Enjoy it!

Questions&Answers

Q Does the unit keep its recorded data when power is removed?

A Yes! Until you will clear it from memory using CLEAR Button.

Q Can you change the sample rate without loosing the data? For example, could you do a flight at the 0.1 second rate, then change to the 1.5 second rate and do another flight, and then download the data from both flights at the end?

A Yes! No problem, just sampling rate must be switched over (using jumper) when LOLO is not ON.

Q The information mentions up to 10 ON/OFF blocks. Does this mean you can turn it on/off up to 10 times before downloading the data, and that the data from each 'on' time is downloaded as a seperate file or record in Excel?

A Yes! However there is limit either in 10 ON/OFF blocks or memory capacity, then LOLO stops logging altitude.

Q Does this also mean that you can change the sample rate each time you turn the unit on?

A Yes!

Q What kind of interface on PC do I need ?

A You need RS 232 interface e.g. serial port (also known as mouse port). Every (99.99%) PC has such interface.

Q LOLO LED is just on, no blinking. What does it mean?

A It is sending data to interface port. Depends on size of log this can take more than 60 sec. Always wait until LED starts to blink in sampling rate interval only then it is again recording altitude. If LED goes OFF after this ON status, memory is full and you have to download data to PC.

Q It's possible to adjust the sensibility ? When I use the lolo for measurement on level 0 m the value oscillates between -1 meter and +1 meter.

A Used technology A/D converter etc. is price/performance compromise. If you want to measure altitude with 1m resolution, always there will be some noise. Its like water surface, looks smooth but never is totally smooth. To eliminate all these effects would increase complexity of LOLO and price, sure.

Q Any chance of getting a version of the XLS that does the graphs in Feet?

A Simply go to Settings > Calculations > Altitude and change the formula to: =(LN(%TV/%TR)*(-29.153)*293)*3.28
3.28 coeficient is derived from feet to meters conversion - 1feet = 0.3048m

Q I need to know the commmunication protocol and data format you use in LOLO.

A You can take a look to first page (DATA) and then take a look to formulas used. LOLO sends data via standard RS232 link in 8N1 19000Bd text format. It sends data exactly like you see it at Data sheet. You can start some Windows terminal and you can receive your data. Each block starts with 127 character, then next 2 bytes are reference pressure (raw data) for given block (zero altitude), next 1 byte is storage period for given block in tenth of second. Next bytes are altitude readings in differential format, signed char. So you need to add/sub this value from reference pressure. Then you need to calculate real atmospheric pressure and then the altitude. Used formulas are seen in Excel macro. This format will not be changed, so you can develop your sw if you want.

Technical specification

  • Dimmensions 40x22x17mm
  • Weight 10 g
  • Storage period 1/3 sec (customer based) *
  • Memory capacity up 18 h ( 8 sec. period)
  • Max number of blocks (ON/OFF) 10(unlimited length)
  • Power supply 4,4-9,6V
  • Consumption 15-17mA
  • Resolution 1m
  • Max altitude 2000m

*Total capacity of internal memory is 8 180 records. Using 1s period it is (8180x1)/3600=2hours 16 minutes. Using 3 s period it is (8180x3)/3600=6 hours 49 minutes. For Speedy Gonzaleses I would recommend period 0.1s/0.3s which I use. Using 0.1s period (8180x0.1)/60=14 minutes or (8180x0.3)/60=41minutes.

Usual periods and recommendations

  • 0.2/0.5 F3F, F3B, F3J and F3K (HLG)
  • 0.2/1.0 F3F, F3B, F3J and F3K (HLG) and the others aircrafts with long log possibility 1.0=160min=more than 2.5 hours
  • 0.5/2.0 all aircrafts with very long log possibility 2.0=320min=nearly 5.5 hours

It's also possible to make custom made LOLO with any combination of two from: 0,1; 0,2; 0,3; 0,5; 1; 2; 1.5; 3; 5; 8 sec. But will cost you 10 EUR more.

Price&Availability&Order

  • Starting 1-st of October 2002 price for one piece LOLO Standard is 99,-EUR (without shipping&handling).
  • Starting 1-st November 2002 price for one piece LOLO Race is 109,-EUR (without shipping&handling).

What you will get

  • Altimeter including power suply cable with JR connector (10cm length)
  • 1,5 m cable with interface for the altimeter, connector Canon 9 with CLEAR button
  • From beginning of November 2002 I don't supply SW on floppy disk as standard. You can download it from my site (see bellow). You can get SW on floppy disk on request (+5EUR)

Where I can order it or where I can ask additional questions?

Manual&Downloads

Manual for LOLO ver. 1.2. (5/11/2002) PDF 270kB Updated! LOLO Race operating instructions included!

Macro Excel sheet ver. 1.01 (19/7/2002) ZIP/XLS 73kB or XLS 196kB

Unlocked Macro Excel sheet ver. 1.01 (1/12/2002) XLS Macro 200kB or ZIP 72kB. Specification of LOLO vs. RS-232 port communication. Lolo Data Processing DOC 28k or ZIP 5kB NEW!! (1/12/2002)

Installation of SW consists of system files and Excel macro. If you already installed system files using Full Installation SW, you can just replace "old macro" with new one and everything should work.

Full Installation SW (incl. system files). NEW!! (3/1/2003)

  1. Download file InstLolo.zip (140kB) or InstLolo.exe (160kB) and un-ZIP it, if neccessary.
  2. Run installer
  3. Installation will place new folder in you Program Files.
  4. Run macro Alti.XLS

Installation instructions for Macro Excel

  1. Download file and un-ZIP it if neccessary
  2. Place it in your favorite directory
  3. Just run it as your former (old) macro
  4. Please, be aware that if Descent/Ascent values are oscillating too much, it is sign that it is perhaps far from reality. The most usefull values are AVG 5 i.e. average from 5 adjacent values.

Norwegian version of LOLO SW XLS 205kB from Geir Stromstad (15/10/02)

You should check Ola Fremming's website for Excel-free software for LOLO (02/11/02)

Full version of software for analysing data from your LOLO/LOLO RACE ALTI.EXE 4,2MB ver. 1.0.24 (29/03/2004)

I have for all of you owners of LOLO1 small gift-ALTI.EXE analysis software as FULL LATEST version. Just download it here (4.2MB), password for installation is BWPKGV. Instructions you can learn here. If you will find software helpfull, you can donate me with any amount you think it's worth it , let me know.

Please this download is usefull ONLY for LOLO1 users. LOLO2/ALTI2 users they have already full version of this software.

For analysing old LOLO/LOLO RACE/ALTI logs (in MS Excel format) in ALTI.EXE you will need:

  1. Latest version of MS EXCEL macro called ALTI_IO.ZIP (100kB)
  2. ALTI.EXE installed on you computer 4.2MB

After downloading all neccessary software components. Install them. Un-ZIP XLS Macro and install Alti.exe. Now how to import old XLS loggs:

  1. Run XLS un-zipped macro. Allow running macros in you Excel (if asked)
  2. Open requested old log.
  3. Press Export icon on ALTI Toolbar.
  4. Run ALTI.EXE (evaluation copy), select File, Import Raw Text file, find and open just exported file from XLS Macro.
  5. Voilá, thats all, you should get your log in new ALTI.EXE software and taste all great features, which are briefly explained in Analysis Software Instructions.

Thanks to Rainer Primosch from Austria you can download another Excel-free software package for LOLO. Just maybe to spare you some time there is short legend from me. Please, with additional questions contact Rainer, not me. I'd be just user as you are :)

1-To start download press green semaphore. Red to stop.
2-Every download starts with this "ramp", it 's not your altitude log, ignore it.
3-Every block (measurement) is marked with red bar.
4-There is nice feature, measuring cursor. Measures X and Y differences.
5-Don't forget to choose Lomcofuck's Logger mode
6-There are nice Zoom and Move features

Sure there are other functions, just check it and enjoy it!
Roman Vojtech (26/2/2003)

LOLO RACE

Yes, new version of altitude logger-LOLO RACE-is here! There are two main differences comparing to LOLO Standard.

  • You can control start of logging by your transmitter. Just plug in LOLO Race to any free receiver port and move stick or switch...logging will start
  • No initialization phase (120sec). You can start logging immediatelly.

Detailed instruction you will find in manual ver. 1.2. PDF 270kB

There is also another one novelty. I'd like to initialize your programming resources and asking you to help in LOLO Software Development. I thing there is demand for PalmOS and WinCE platform, mainly.

First successful projects for mentioned platforms will be awarded by LOLO! Sure you as developer will be owner of copyright, but I will just ask you to give it free to all LOLO users. As first step to release this potencial I made Excel macro for downloading LOLO data open! Here you can download password free Excel macro. Just replace it with your already installed one. XLS Macro 200kB or ZIP 72kB

I'm looking forward to hear soon about results of your programming effort:) In this document is specification of LOLO vs. RS-232 port communication. Lolo Data Processing DOC 28k or ZIP 5kB

Roman Vojtech (1/12/2002)

Orig 1024x768, 150kB

As standard accessory you will get extra LED on 15cm cable. Allows you to have better control over LOLO Race status.

Same size, same weight , different functionality. LOLO Race